You say, "how would a mac mini work for graphics/publishing?" jcnmonkey [to you]: probably too slow jcnmonkey [to you]: well, depends on what you're doing, and how long you want the machine to last. You [to jcnmonkey]: yeah. i think they need to stick with high end g3/4's You [to jcnmonkey]: not for me. You [to jcnmonkey]: my friend's company wants to switch over to pc because they're "cheaper" and he's in charge of researching options clay says, "mac mini's probably not enough" clay says, "though with enough ram" clay says, "dunno" jcnmonkey says, "talk about TCO and spammy things." jcnmonkey says, "the amount of time people spend wiping viruses off of machines and the like." You say, "oooh good point...." clay says, "viruses and spyware etc" jcnmonkey says, "and networking."
A Mac mini would be fine. The main slowness factors come from:
a) slower sys bus (not that big of a deal) b) laptop hard drives used in the mini (4200 rpm)
You can solve the latter problem by running an external Firewire or USB 2.0 drive offa the thing. Those are pretty cheap these days. Otherwise, I think they're good machines, and if I could change things, I'd go back in time and buy a Mac mini and an iBook 12" instead of the PB 15" I picked up. FYI, Mac minis appear to have the lowest failure rates of any Apple machines, according to Macintouch's informal polling. Ironic, but cool.
well the only thing that can really be done is a thorough cost analysis. someone needs to make a complete list of everything that would be involved in either staying with MAC in the states and switching to MAC in the mother country and put that along side a list of switching to PC in the states and the mother country staying this same. Basically this is going to require lists, charts and projected costs for at least a 5 year period. but really, i'm willing ot bet it would be cheaper for them to go MAC in india. only research will show...
As exarian said, Dell is cheap for a reason. Things have really gone downhill for those guys. I used to really think they were the best PC company around. Now, I'm pretty convinced they blow, if all the personal, Dell anecdotes I've heard from various people are anything to go by.
Also, you may or may not know that the Mac is going Intel, starting in less than a year. The first machines to get Pentiums (or some sort of x86 chips) will be the minis and the iBooks. While we're still really far away from actual release, the dev machines are running fast and emulating PowerPC code pretty well. The word from Cupertino is that they will do nothing to keep an Intel-based Mac from running Windows, so it's possible that you could have both OSes running on a Mac, and since the Mac will be using a Pentium, Windows will run pretty much as fast as it would on a PC with the same chip/bus. Just more to think about.
Lance
(can't sign on as beekicker, since I don't have my password collection here at work)
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Date: 2005-07-20 03:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-20 04:04 pm (UTC)here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 03:56 pm (UTC)jcnmonkey [to you]: probably too slow
jcnmonkey [to you]: well, depends on what you're doing, and how long you want the machine to last.
You [to jcnmonkey]: yeah. i think they need to stick with high end g3/4's
You [to jcnmonkey]: not for me.
You [to jcnmonkey]: my friend's company wants to switch over to pc because they're "cheaper" and he's in charge of researching options
clay says, "mac mini's probably not enough"
clay says, "though with enough ram"
clay says, "dunno"
jcnmonkey says, "talk about TCO and spammy things."
jcnmonkey says, "the amount of time people spend wiping viruses off of
machines and the like."
You say, "oooh good point...."
clay says, "viruses and spyware etc"
jcnmonkey says, "and networking."
Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 04:03 pm (UTC)Right now I have 350 MHz on a G3 wth 704 MB... and I have the best machine we got.
We are sooo far behind. *sigh*
Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 04:13 pm (UTC)Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 04:19 pm (UTC)Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 05:30 pm (UTC)A Mac mini would be fine. The main slowness factors come from:
a) slower sys bus (not that big of a deal)
b) laptop hard drives used in the mini (4200 rpm)
You can solve the latter problem by running an external Firewire or USB 2.0 drive offa the thing. Those are pretty cheap these days. Otherwise, I think they're good machines, and if I could change things, I'd go back in time and buy a Mac mini and an iBook 12" instead of the PB 15" I picked up. FYI, Mac minis appear to have the lowest failure rates of any Apple machines, according to Macintouch's informal polling. Ironic, but cool.
Lance
Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 06:52 pm (UTC)And the minis are so cute! :P
Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 09:57 pm (UTC)Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 06:40 pm (UTC)Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 06:50 pm (UTC)Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 06:53 pm (UTC)might have a job for you yet...
Re: here this should be useful!
Date: 2005-07-20 07:24 pm (UTC)oi...
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Date: 2005-07-20 05:37 pm (UTC)As exarian said, Dell is cheap for a reason. Things have really gone downhill for those guys. I used to really think they were the best PC company around. Now, I'm pretty convinced they blow, if all the personal, Dell anecdotes I've heard from various people are anything to go by.
Also, you may or may not know that the Mac is going Intel, starting in less than a year. The first machines to get Pentiums (or some sort of x86 chips) will be the minis and the iBooks. While we're still really far away from actual release, the dev machines are running fast and emulating PowerPC code pretty well. The word from Cupertino is that they will do nothing to keep an Intel-based Mac from running Windows, so it's possible that you could have both OSes running on a Mac, and since the Mac will be using a Pentium, Windows will run pretty much as fast as it would on a PC with the same chip/bus. Just more to think about.
Lance
(can't sign on as beekicker, since I don't have my password collection here at work)